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Toll Brothers, Inc. (TOL)·Q4 2024 Earnings Summary
Executive Summary
- Q4 delivered strong top-line and earnings: home sales revenue $3.26B (+10% YoY), diluted EPS $4.63 (+13% YoY), and units 3,431 (+25% YoY). Adjusted home sales gross margin was 27.9%, beating guidance by 40bps, while SG&A was 8.3%, 30bps better than guidance .
- Orders accelerated: net signed contracts $2.66B (+32% YoY) and 2,658 units (+30% YoY), with cancellations at industry-low levels (2.5% of beginning backlog) .
- Guidance set a cautious Q1 FY25 margin low point (adjusted GM 26.25%) due to mix and elevated Q4 incentives, but management reaffirmed full-year adjusted GM of ~27.25% and operating margin sustainability in the 17–18% range .
- Stock reaction catalysts: broad beats vs Q4 guidance (deliveries, adjusted GM, SG&A) and robust start to fiscal Q1 demand, offset by near-term margin headwinds from mix/incentives and slightly lower “other income” than guided .
What Went Well and What Went Wrong
What Went Well
- Record year capped by a strong quarter: “our fourth quarter adjusted gross margin was 27.9%, beating guidance by 40 basis points… SG&A expense was 8.3%… 30 basis points better than guidance,” driving $4.63 EPS .
- Orders strength despite macro volatility: “we delivered 3,431 homes… contracts were up over 30%… [and] have seen strong demand… encouraged for spring selling season” .
- Capital efficiency and ROE: return on beginning equity of 23.1% for FY24; ongoing focus on spec mix and land-light strategies to sustain high returns .
What Went Wrong
- Gross margin compression YoY: home sales gross margin fell to 26.0% from 27.5% in Q4 FY23, reflecting mix/incentives and higher inventory write-offs in the quarter .
- Backlog down YoY: ending backlog $6.47B and 5,996 units, down 7% and 9% YoY, with average backlog price rising modestly .
- “Other income” short of Q4 guidance: delivered $44.5M vs $47M guided, and Pacific region revenues declined YoY with lower ASPs, highlighting regional mix headwinds .
Financial Results
Quarterly sequential comparison
Q4 YoY comparison (Q4 2023 vs Q4 2024)
Segment breakdown (Q4 2024 vs Q4 2023)
KPIs and operating metrics
Guidance Changes
Earnings Call Themes & Trends
Management Commentary
- “Our fourth quarter adjusted gross margin was 27.9%, beating guidance by 40 basis points… SG&A expense was 8.3%... earnings of $4.63 per diluted share… up 13% compared to last year” — Douglas C. Yearley, Jr., CEO .
- “Since the start of our fiscal 2025… we have seen strong demand… optimistic for the start of the spring selling season… we increased community count by 10% and are targeting a similar increase in fiscal 2025” — CEO .
- “We are projecting… Q1 adjusted gross margin… 26.25%… the low point of the year… fully expect it will be the low point… comfortable with full-year guide of 27.25%” — Martin Connor, CFO .
- “We are comfortable with the 17% to 18% range of our operating margin… we did ~$1B cash flow in 2024, and we project a similar amount in 2025” — CFO .
- “Our spec margin runs about 200bps below the average… build-to-order margin is about 200bps above” — CEO .
- “Incentives in the fourth quarter were approximately 6.7%… we think we’re going to be settling in the 5%–6% range as the spring season approaches” — CEO/CFO .
Q&A Highlights
- Operating margin and cash flow: Management reaffirmed 17–18% long-term operating margin and ~$1B FY25 operating cash flow projection .
- Capital returns: FY25 buyback budget $500M (weighted to back half), with flexibility to do more depending on cash generation and opportunities .
- Margin cadence and rate assumptions: FY25 margin trajectory assumes no rate declines; Q1 margin lower largely due to mix; remainder of year ~27.5% adjusted GM implied .
- Demand pace: Q1 pacing ~2 contracts per community per month (~2,400–2,500 contracts implied), better than typical seasonal decline vs Q4 .
- Regional and product trends: Strength in Northeast corridor and Texas (Dallas/Houston), caution in Phoenix and several Florida markets; Luxury strongest performer; active adult softer due to tough comps .
- Tariffs: Management expects any tariff impact on supply chain to be limited; prepared to navigate if needed .
Estimates Context
- Wall Street consensus (S&P Global) estimates were unavailable due to an SPGI daily request limit. As a result, comparisons vs consensus cannot be provided for Q4, Q3, and Q2 in this report. We attempted retrieval twice and were blocked by the limit.
- Implication: Company results materially exceeded its own Q4 guidance on deliveries, adjusted margins, and SG&A, which typically drives upward estimate revisions, but we cannot quantify consensus movements here without S&P data .
Key Takeaways for Investors
- Q4 beat-driven print: Broad beats vs guidance (deliveries, adjusted GM, SG&A) and stronger-than-typical early Q1 demand suggest positive near-term sentiment despite Q1 margin headwinds from mix/incentives .
- Margin framework intact: FY25 adjusted GM targeted at 27.25% with Q1 as the low point; spec/BTO margin spread (~±200bps) and mix explain near-term compression .
- Capital efficiency + returns: ROE 23.1% in FY24; sustained ~$1B operating cash flow expected in FY25; buybacks ($500M guide) remain a lever alongside growth investments .
- Geographic/product diversification: Strong Northeast and Texas offset areas of caution (Phoenix, Florida); portfolio breadth and affluent buyer base underpin stability across rate cycles .
- Orders momentum: Contracts up 30%+ in Q4; Q1 pacing better than seasonal norms supports volume trajectory into spring selling season .
- Watch margin cadence and incentives: Expect normalization of incentives back to 5–6%; monitor mix effects, particularly Pacific/Mid-Atlantic contributions to margins .
- “Other income” variability: Q4 came in modestly below guidance; FY25 assumes $110M, including sales of stabilized apartments—track JV/apartment transactions’ timing .